What's the big deal? (TG perspective)

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Kyra
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What's the big deal? (TG perspective)

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Jean wrote:
In this column, and others, I have read, or heard, of women's reactions upon finding their husbands wearing their panties or dresses, etc. Most of them express thgemselves as "in shock," "in tears," betrayed," and even "jealous." So, this post is aimed primarily at wives and SOs.

I ask, "What's the big deal?" If I were to come home and surprise my wife in my jocky shorts or tuxedo, I wouldn't feel that way. And, I don't think that most men would, whether CD or not. Now, admittedly, I may not find my wife particularly attractive, or appealing, in jocky shorts, BUT SHOCKED?

A local 6:00 news report on TV (that's television) reported that 80% of women admitted to having tried on men's underwear, but only 32% of men admitted to having tried on women's underwear.

If I saw my wife putting on my underwear, I would regard it as either curiosity, or as exploring her sexuality. I would, certainly, NEVER react with rage, indignation, shock, a feeling of betrayal, or a feeling of jealousy.
As a matter of fact, as long as she's not going out with other men, I want her to have sexual feelings, and I want her to explore them. Why should I feel either shocked or jealouse?

Why should a wife feel "shocked" at seeing her husband wearing her clothes? Women wear men's clothes all the time, and think nothing of it. I f told that they wear jeans, which are men's clothes, many women will say, and believe it, "No they aren't. See, they zip on the side (or, in back). They're made for women. They fit our shape." So... Suppose they make a frilly dress with a full skirt and a low neckline specifically to fit the shape of a men? Does that make a dress MEN'S CLOTHING? Certainly not! Dresses are still women's clothing, but some men just like to wear them. As long as it's done it private, WHAT'S SO SHOCKING ABOUT IT? But women do it quite publicly.

"BETRAYED" Betrayed by what?! Is there another woman? No! Is he bringing home venereal diseases? No! Has he shared someone else's conjugal bed? No!

" JEALOUSE" WHY?! Is their another woman? No! Has he suddenly become female? No! Is he sharing his bed with someone else? No! As a matter of fact, he probably wishes, more than anything else in the world, that you would be as sexually aroused at the sight of him in those pretty clothes, as he is.

He wishes, more than anything else, that upon seeing him in such lovely sexy lingerie (or, whatever), you would throw yourself in his arms and shower hime with kisses, allowing your hands to caress him and wander all over him, the very same way that he would if you were in the sam clothes. He knows, deep inside, of course, that that's not the way it's going to be.

Because of this, he also feels utterly shocked and betrayed BY YOU, when you burst into tears and recriminations, and when you display utter contempt and revulsion for him, when in is his own mind, he is just being pretty, sexy, and adorable, which he admires so much in you.
All of these hysterical reactions are just that... hysterical reactions based on nothing whatever!
Naturally, you don't want the neighbors or the children to see him dressed that way (since it's socially disapproved of). Naturally, you want his assurances that he's not turning queer. And naturally, you want to know that he's not contemplating a sex change operation. But, as long as it's just between the two of you (or, perhaps a few others who are into the same thing), then what difference does it really make.

He may be no more appealling to you in a dress or negligee, than you are to him in jocky shorts or a tuxedo, but other than that, what's the harm?

Actually, some women have reported that they find intimacy with their husbands, while he's dressed en femmej, to be very sexy and "naughty," a real turn-on. One lady said, "I always thought I would be turned-off by the sight of a man wearing lingerie, but I found that I was actually turned-ON by it. Mind you, it was a mild turn-on, but a turn-on, non the less.

Could some of you ladies and SOs, after reading this and giving it some deep thought, react to it and express your thoughts on the subject? I really would like to know, WHY IS THIS SUCH A BIG DEAL?!
Hi Jean,
I've read through what the SO's have posted and on Beauty's suggestion, started this thread for my input.

It appears that trying on femme articles is not the real issue. At least not for SOs. IMO the shock, rage, and indignation stems from the trust aspect of relationships. Sure, they may be upset at the appearance of a guy in a dress, but I think the real issue is being lied to by the one you love. This was definitely the issue between my wife and I. Deceit is a hard blow to any relationship, and repairing the damage can be very difficult.

Just my thoughts.

Hugs,
Kyra
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Post by Rebecca_Lynn »

I don't post often but I'd like to add my thoughts and feelings.


I told my SO pretty soon after we met. She has know for the almost 9 years we have known each other now. I think of her as very accepting. Yes, she has set boundaries that she is not comfortable with right now. Will those boundaries change? Probably. After all we all change over time. None of us are the same people who married regardless of how much we think we are.

Would I like for things to progress maybe a little faster? Yes. Will things progress further with my SO and my CD'ing? Only time and communication between us will tell. Would I care if she wanted to dress as a guy? Well, all the time? Probably. Part of the time (like my CD'ing is), I wouldn't mind if that is how she feels. I would probably have some of the same boundaries as we do now. Just so I can fully adjust to the differences. I know she is the same person I fell in love with and married (with some changes over time, just as I have changed over time).

From what I have read a lot of the bad feelings are caused by the lack of open communication for years. This could be translated into a lack of trust. One side has been open with their feelings and quirks yet the other has hidden something (a very large part of themselves in many cases) from the relationship. This undermines the trust and emotional care that one has put into the relationship. It has become unbalanced and in some aspects one sided. Now what I just wrote can apply to MANY different scenarios, I purposely kept it generalized yet specific enough so everyone can try to relate.

I can understand (I think) how some of the SO's feel as well as how some of the CD's feel. I can in no way fully comprehend how some SO's feel I can only try to understand their feelings through what they write. My SO is not a member of this forum or any other forum. I have asked her to check in here and have some other SO's in similar circumstances to talk with. So far she has not, at least she hasn't told me she has, and I trust she will when she does.

I feel better at letting out some of that and hope I haven't insulted anyone. If I have it was not my intention.
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Post by Jassmine(SO) »

Howdy Y'all ..o)..

Kyra Wrote:
It appears that trying on femme articles is not the real issue. At least not for SOs. IMO the shock, rage, and indignation stems from the trust aspect of relationships. Sure, they may be upset at the appearance of a guy in a dress, but I think the real issue is being lied to by the one you love. Deceit is a hard blow to any relationship, and repairing the damage can be very difficult.
We stand in agreement. Ah, but I see not being open and honest up front, more of a "sin of omission" rather than a lie. I haven't told Ahzz everything about myself, only what he really NEEDS to know. And I am certain Ahzz has done the same. There are some things I wish to and do keep to myself, but they have no bearing on our relationship. Do I see my keeping those things as my own deceitful, no. Ahzz knows what he needs to about me and I about him to keep our relationship open, honest, and very happy :)

Rebecca_Lynn Wrote:
From what I have read a lot of the bad feelings are caused by the lack of open communication for years. This could be translated into a lack of trust. One side has been open with their feelings and quirks yet the other has hidden something (a very large part of themselves in many cases) from the relationship. This undermines the trust and emotional care that one has put into the relationship. It has become unbalanced and in some aspects one sided. Now what I just wrote can apply to MANY different scenarios, I purposely kept it generalized yet specific enough so everyone can try to relate.
Excellent point! There are things one MUST tell there SO about in order for both parties to be happy and content in the relationship. The problem I have seen most often, is that most folks don't know themselves well enough to know what they need from a perspective mate. For example: Do they need someone who is always dominant in the bedroom, someone who is submissive, or someone who is both? Do they need someone into some of the kinky pleasures? I use these as an examples, because these are things I learned about myself, and things Ahzz needs to know. Do they need someone who can challenge their minds, ie philisophical? Do they need someone who walks the same spiritual path? Again, this comes from my own life and things I learned about myself. This is also need to know information for both parties. I could list more examples, but I am short on time.

Just some food for thought :)

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Blessings Eternal, Jassmine

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