Feminine Gestures & Movements

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Feminine Gestures & Movements

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my 2nd try...I was just kicked off the forum before I finished my sentence.
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if this is the wrong place, someone please move this?
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I do not/did not/see/ a place, for off topic subjects.
all I see are about other things. mine is seldom ever about what I see posted. I have not even seen one single post I could comment on.
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I ask;
WHY do females stand, with one leg straight, and one leg bent out in front of them?

WHY do I see females talking with their hands out in front of them, touching fingers or putting hands together?

these two questions are my starters, to get a feel for this forum.

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Post by Virginia »

Hi Ronnie,
It's a girl thing! Why do guys pick their noses and put their hands down their pants? Another observation or two. The heel of a woman's hand never touches anything and notice how women gently caress virtually anything they are around. They have a much better sense of smell than men and they have that undeniable "woman's intuition!" They are definitely stronger emotionally than men and probably physically as well - ever given birth, honey?
Your questioning hundreds of thousands of years of evolution. They stand the way they do because it "frees the feminine foot" - that's a long story in itself and their hand movements are a sensual thing that - as you are a prime example - attracts the opposite sex. Watch how they gently caress their hair - that is a flirting thing that a lot of GG's don't even know they are doing. And on and on!!!! Women are such complex, unique and wonderous creatures. It is no wonder that those of us with "the gift" seek to emulate them!
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Post by SilverLady(SO) »

Hi, Ronnie -

I can only guess that you were 'kicked off the forum' due to a time-out by your ISP.

We do have a section called "Off Topics, Non-CD Issues" but your questions are probably more appropriate here where everyone tends to answer. You could also have chosen to post it in the "Dear GG" section which, as the name implies, are questions that primarily my fellow GG's and I will answer, although the CD's have commented on those posts and are in no way barred from doing so.

My answer to your questions would be almost identical to what Virginia posted - mostly because we were just discussing your questions, and she happened to 'submit' her response before me!

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Post by Stephanie W »

I was going to suggest putting this thread in the Dear GG section but if everyone is happy with it here, fine with me.

I think Virginia answered your question very well. Truly plenty of darn good reasons why we like to emulate them?

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hmmm. dear santa, there IS a virgina...........lol

thank you, so much, for your reply.
it seems you have knowledge I do not have.
would you be so kind, as to elaborate, on 2 key items, if you would please?

what is this, about the-fem-foot being free?

what is this, about the heel of the hand?

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Post by Virginia »

Hi, Ronnie -
You're asking the wrong girl about why we do the things we do! :oops:
All I can say is that as for the foot, it is a matter of grace!!! I would hazard a guess that if you notice, guys stand flat footed and when they are ready to move it is a mechanical thing that takes more effort to shift weight, point toes in the selected direction of travel, balance, place knuckles on the ground for additional balance and plod off to whatever food source they may have detected! For us (CD's) it is just a matter of stepping forward in the manner that a lady would step.
The heel of the hand is an enigma that is simply a feminine characteristic. It is evidently not a learned behavior, but it does add a sense of style and grace to the hand movements, don't you think?!
Hell, I could be dead wrong on all this, but it's this girl's opinion!
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Post by Sylvia H »

Ronnie,

Are you seeking reasoning behind gesturing? Of the bzillion gestures used by GGs, there can be any number of reasons. Th heel thing could very well be a physiological thing, weight distribution due to wider hips, height to weight ratio, standing that way because their mom did (learned behavior), etc.
Emulating those gestures are easy for some of us and more difficult for others.
As it happens, I stand that way naturally due to a peculiar way my back and pelvis were put together wahn I was born. (Dont know if being premature had anything to do with it)
Also there is quite a bit of info out on the internet about "body language" which has been studied and documented for years.

Hope Im not missing your point.


:) Sylvia
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Post by SilverLady(SO) »

The 'one leg straight, one leg bent out in front of them' is, as Virginia stated, "freeing the feminine foot." That phrase actually comes from Denae Doyle. The bent leg is the leg that women will lead off with when going from a stand to a walk.

Females talking with their hands out in front of them, touching fingers or putting hands together - hmmmmm, harder to answer, and it depends upon the person and the situation. In a business or social situation, the hand movements are a subtle way of expressing confidence to the listeners and/or emphasizing a point in a feminine manner.

If a female has her chin resting on her hand while her elbow is on the table, an open hand shows an open mind and confidence; if the hand is closed (like a fist) then the female is indicating a closed mind on the subject - - whether she is aware of it or not. The same is true of anyone (male or female) standing with their arms crossed in front of them - - it's an indication of a closed mind on whatever subject is being discussed.

Some ethnicities talk with their hands - - and I speak from experience! Look at the Italians, Greeks, and so on. You know the old joke, "Tie up an Italian's hands and they can't talk?" That is so true, and that is a behavior learned by example. Yep, been there done that, I'm part Italian and Virginia teases me about my hand movements!!! =; :P

The 'heel of the hand' is that part of the palm at the base of the thumb and above the wrist. Most females touch objects with their fingers, as in a caress, while men tend to put their whole hand on the object. Virginia is right - it is not a learned behavior, at least, I was never taught that - I believe it's a subconscious behavior.

Any comments from my fellow GG's? :-k

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gestures?

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thank you for your nice replies. I DO appreciate nice people.

now....
The same is true of anyone (male or female) standing with their arms crossed in front of them
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I do not know about conscience or not...."I" do it coz I have no where to put my hands. it's part of my OCD. if I have my arms locked together or my hands somewhere in pockets or some such...I just have no where I feel comfy with my hands, when I am trying to listen to someone. it's a kinda nervous twitch.

again.....thanks
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Post by Virginia »

Ronnie,
You need to observe, honey!
At the mall or in a restaurant, watch how women stand, sit, where they place their hands. POINT: pick out the, a - hum,! the ones that dress more sophisicated and at least have a clue that they are a GG .
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Post by Georgia(SO) »

OK. So I'm standing here at the computer trying to analyze the fem-foot-forward thing and figure out why it is I do it. I assume you are speaking of standing with most of your weight on one locked leg with the other one just touching with the toes, and no real weight on it?

SL could be right, that we do it so that we have one foot already in place before we take a step - possibly in case we have to run from Virginia's knuckle-dragging males!

Or, I think it evolved more like this. To stand with both feet flat on the floor requires that your thighs be slightly apart - a very immodest stance in most gg's secret girl brain. Moreover, it feels quite clunky, especially in heels - also a no-no in most gg's secret girl brain.

I'll have to cogitate upon the hand thing - gotta get back to work just now.

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Post by Maria »

Ronnie,

I have met femininity coach Denae Doyle at an annual transgendered conference in the San Francisco area. She is located in Northern California, and I have had several feminine coaching sessions with her. It take time and practice for the transgendered woman to develop natural looking feminine poise and gestures.

She visited Southern Comfort (A huge transgendered conference) in Atlanta last year.

You may want to visit Denae Doyle's site for more information about feminine movement. http://www.femimage.com/

Maria
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Post by Lisbeth »

I was fascinated by the heel of the hand thing. I made my wife pick up and touch a bunch of different things and it's absolutly true!
My only question is how do I cover up the callouses on my knuckles when I get all dressed up?
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again---thank you

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everyone has been so nice to me, and I am grateful.
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Post by Stephanie W »

SL
You know the old joke, "Tie up an Italian's hands and they can't talk?"
Now I know why Virginia ordered all that rope. :P
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