DO ANYONE THINK WE WERE WOMAN IN A PREVIOS LIFE
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Elizabeth
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Hey CJ,
No, I am not saying that. I can not, I have no proof. I don't have any feelings that would lead me to beleive that I have been a woman in a previous life, I just don't have any feelings that I have not been either. It's difficult for me to consider that I might have been, when no evidence that it has ever happened seems to exist.
I tend to be pragmatic. If there is no evidence of something, I tend to not beleive in it. I know this upsets people, I have had to deal with this all my life. When one does not believe in things that require a "leap of faith", espeically when most others beleive, we end up defending our lack of belief, while those who beleive are given the full benefit of the doubt. I have never understood this.
Love always,
Elizabeth
No, I am not saying that. I can not, I have no proof. I don't have any feelings that would lead me to beleive that I have been a woman in a previous life, I just don't have any feelings that I have not been either. It's difficult for me to consider that I might have been, when no evidence that it has ever happened seems to exist.
I tend to be pragmatic. If there is no evidence of something, I tend to not beleive in it. I know this upsets people, I have had to deal with this all my life. When one does not believe in things that require a "leap of faith", espeically when most others beleive, we end up defending our lack of belief, while those who beleive are given the full benefit of the doubt. I have never understood this.
Love always,
Elizabeth
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Tammy Lynn
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What I think about this story
hay elizabeth
explain this to me then why do we crossdress an use different names. i can say this we have a lot to thi nk about i think to but bare with me on this. we was born. then we grew up an did not no what we were going to do in our life but. now i no who i am an i love dressing i belive were are all recardnated an once girls. an i no that we grew up an saw our sister,mom,aunt or woman geniral an what we see what they are wareing we want to. i think we were girls before. but if we get a test done we may find out the truth.
explain this to me then why do we crossdress an use different names. i can say this we have a lot to thi nk about i think to but bare with me on this. we was born. then we grew up an did not no what we were going to do in our life but. now i no who i am an i love dressing i belive were are all recardnated an once girls. an i no that we grew up an saw our sister,mom,aunt or woman geniral an what we see what they are wareing we want to. i think we were girls before. but if we get a test done we may find out the truth.
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Hi,
I dont believe in reincarnation. I dont believe in a supreme being or in souls. I believe we are a chemical composite designed to a pattern dictated by our DNA.
When we die we will be either reduced to our finite atoms by fire or allowed to decompose naturally. Either way, part of us may live once again in another form. But I dont believe we will ever be aware of it.
You got one chance to live this life, make the most of it.
Kerri
I dont believe in reincarnation. I dont believe in a supreme being or in souls. I believe we are a chemical composite designed to a pattern dictated by our DNA.
When we die we will be either reduced to our finite atoms by fire or allowed to decompose naturally. Either way, part of us may live once again in another form. But I dont believe we will ever be aware of it.
You got one chance to live this life, make the most of it.
Kerri
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So, if you have had past lives as a woman...how many? When did you begin? When will it end? According to the Buddha, we have had more past lives than grains of sand on all the beaches on earth. So many lives, in fact, that everyone you will ever meet has at one time been you mother (and so deserves to be treated with the same kindness and respect).
Where do feelings of a past life, say as a 50's housewife come from? It is hard to say, especially in this era when we are bombarded with images and stimulation. From the Buddha's perspective, whatever body we have today, one day we won't have. In fact, the body we had as a child is gone already, and the body we have right now will be different before you finish reading this....
so enjoy, but don't take it to be real...
xoxo chrissie
Where do feelings of a past life, say as a 50's housewife come from? It is hard to say, especially in this era when we are bombarded with images and stimulation. From the Buddha's perspective, whatever body we have today, one day we won't have. In fact, the body we had as a child is gone already, and the body we have right now will be different before you finish reading this....
so enjoy, but don't take it to be real...
xoxo chrissie
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Ann Stef
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Woman in a previous life.
for the 1000 men who want to be female, there is only one female who wants to switch. there must be something in the previous life that makes a male think.
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Actually when it comes to SRS in the USA I think it is about 25% FTM and 75% MTF
However FTM folks do tend to try seem to be less noticable.
As for the reasons there have been lots of reasons advanced, to female hormones being given during pregnancy back in the day to women being expected to want to be men and thus having more options to act manly without SRS.
And then there is the fact that stuff just seems to go wrong with men more often, starting at conception. More male fetuses are concieved than female but by birth the miscarriage rate is so much higher for male fetuses that more female babies are born. And of course women live longer.
I think it all comes down to in nature men are expendable, women aren't.
Absaroka
However FTM folks do tend to try seem to be less noticable.
As for the reasons there have been lots of reasons advanced, to female hormones being given during pregnancy back in the day to women being expected to want to be men and thus having more options to act manly without SRS.
And then there is the fact that stuff just seems to go wrong with men more often, starting at conception. More male fetuses are concieved than female but by birth the miscarriage rate is so much higher for male fetuses that more female babies are born. And of course women live longer.
I think it all comes down to in nature men are expendable, women aren't.
Absaroka
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In all the old movies I watched as a kid, I could never understand or accept the well known phrase in a disaster
"Women and children first".
It was quite poignant when illustrated in the movie "Titanic".
Maybe thats the origin of our species, when a man thought
"Ive got to get on that lifeboat somehow!"
haha
Kerri
"Women and children first".
It was quite poignant when illustrated in the movie "Titanic".
Maybe thats the origin of our species, when a man thought
"Ive got to get on that lifeboat somehow!"
haha
Kerri
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Children were saved because they had their whole life in front of them. Women, because what made men men, back when they were, was protecting women.
The idea of dying like a man, of being selfless, and putting others ahead of yourself was a big idea then, as was peer pressure, and guns.
However, least we forget, class trumps gender, and the people in steerage, third class were locked in, men, women and children because Save The Rich, screw the poor, well that's a much older concept.
I would think, in 2007, a true humanitarian notion would have the youngest first, with enough adults to take care of them, and the oldest, men and women could gather on the deck and sing - as they did - Nearer My God To Thee, as they slipped under the icy waters of the North Atlantic.
The fact that the designer of the Titanic, the guy who was responsible for not putting enough lifeboats to cover everyone was on that deck singing is at least rough justice. Which is the least fate he deserved for the hubris of thinking he designed a ship that could not sink. Pride goes before the fall, after all.
The idea of dying like a man, of being selfless, and putting others ahead of yourself was a big idea then, as was peer pressure, and guns.
However, least we forget, class trumps gender, and the people in steerage, third class were locked in, men, women and children because Save The Rich, screw the poor, well that's a much older concept.
I would think, in 2007, a true humanitarian notion would have the youngest first, with enough adults to take care of them, and the oldest, men and women could gather on the deck and sing - as they did - Nearer My God To Thee, as they slipped under the icy waters of the North Atlantic.
The fact that the designer of the Titanic, the guy who was responsible for not putting enough lifeboats to cover everyone was on that deck singing is at least rough justice. Which is the least fate he deserved for the hubris of thinking he designed a ship that could not sink. Pride goes before the fall, after all.
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Absolutely right about class trumps gender.
But women and children makes a lot of sense because society can survive if you kill off most of the men and leave the women, but if you kill off most of the women and leave the men the society will die out. Back in the day when society consisted of small tribes the ones who didn't understand this died out.
I find traditional Hispanic society a very interesting illustration of a lot of these principals. It is usually viewed as a macho, male dominated society. But in every traditional Hispanic family I have known the dynamic was the same. In public the man made the decisions and spoke for the family. In private the wife told him what the decisions would be and what he should say. And although the men did things they thought were important, like run the country, the women ran the family and considered this to be the task of real importance.
You can send the men off to war, off to jail, off to hunt or work overseas or in the office for 16 hours a day or turn them into a bunch of drug addled bums and society can somehow survive. Do the same to the women and the entire society will disappear in short order. Sure you can have stay at home dads and fathers who take a big interest in their children and all those other "feminine" things. I am one of them. But the point is that what is happening is that it is merely a case of men learning to take over the REAL essential tasks of society.
I think this is true in a great many societies. It's only the men who think that the men are important.
If you don't believe me, ask your mother.
Absaroka
Oh and by the way, in the traditional hunter gatherer society we all came from long ago most of the food came from gathering, not hunting. And the gatherers were.....the women and children.
But women and children makes a lot of sense because society can survive if you kill off most of the men and leave the women, but if you kill off most of the women and leave the men the society will die out. Back in the day when society consisted of small tribes the ones who didn't understand this died out.
I find traditional Hispanic society a very interesting illustration of a lot of these principals. It is usually viewed as a macho, male dominated society. But in every traditional Hispanic family I have known the dynamic was the same. In public the man made the decisions and spoke for the family. In private the wife told him what the decisions would be and what he should say. And although the men did things they thought were important, like run the country, the women ran the family and considered this to be the task of real importance.
You can send the men off to war, off to jail, off to hunt or work overseas or in the office for 16 hours a day or turn them into a bunch of drug addled bums and society can somehow survive. Do the same to the women and the entire society will disappear in short order. Sure you can have stay at home dads and fathers who take a big interest in their children and all those other "feminine" things. I am one of them. But the point is that what is happening is that it is merely a case of men learning to take over the REAL essential tasks of society.
I think this is true in a great many societies. It's only the men who think that the men are important.
If you don't believe me, ask your mother.
Absaroka
Oh and by the way, in the traditional hunter gatherer society we all came from long ago most of the food came from gathering, not hunting. And the gatherers were.....the women and children.
everything under the sun is in tune
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Tekla
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There is a lot of evidence that pre-Christian society in the West tended to be matriarchal rather than patriarchal, and that most of the what the early Christians destroyed - i.e., the Great Library at Alexandria, was stuff that supported the matriarchal / Goddess social order. This is touched on in passing in the da Vinci Code and the notion of the sacred feminine, though they don't go into much detail except to note in passing the symbol of the chalice. But there has been a lot of research over the past 20 years that would tend to indicate that the 3,000 years of Western civilization that preceded the Christians was much different than the way its been painted by its destroyers. For example - we tend to think of 'pagan' as being nature based, and the worship of things in the natural world was important, but what it was at root was woman based, it was Goddess worship - the sacred mother, fertility cults and those societies had a basic female based culture. It tend to be noted that they did not have armies, and its the rise of armies which shifts power to the males, and forces them to create the male based religion with god the father and son, and no sacred women at all.
The sole Western religion to have that survived the Christian onslaught is Judaism, and it is still matriarchal at root. Beginning with the basic definition of who is a Jew which to the present day is carried on the mothers bloodline, not the fathers. (So having a Jewish dad and a Catholic mom makes you NOT Jewish, where the reverse is fine.) G*d in the Jewish sense is not male, but something else, so vast, you can't even say the name.
The sole Western religion to have that survived the Christian onslaught is Judaism, and it is still matriarchal at root. Beginning with the basic definition of who is a Jew which to the present day is carried on the mothers bloodline, not the fathers. (So having a Jewish dad and a Catholic mom makes you NOT Jewish, where the reverse is fine.) G*d in the Jewish sense is not male, but something else, so vast, you can't even say the name.
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Is this the reason that most Presidents and Prime Ministers present their wives to the public on Polling Day. Are they really saying,"Hi thanks for voting for me, here is the woman who will be really running the country".
In my NE Scots society the most powerful person in any family group is the matriarch. In fact in some families it is the man who gives the wife his wage, and it is the wife who gives her man his spending money.
I understand the survival instinct of tribes. It must have been very hard to accept, in reality. But then those were the same days that when the country went to war the young men queued to join up. Nowadays we would wait for the draft.
THe matter of wealth defeats gender still exists. Look back to the days of the Cold War and the threat of nuclear attack. Was the list of people alllowed in based on survival of the species or was it based who you knew and how rich you were.
I recall those days well; the armed service I was with had all the plans laid out based upon an expected desertion rate in excess of 60%, made up of men who would desert to care for their families, as opposed to staying and fighting the enemy.
Times have certainly changed. But faced with same conditions would we as TV/TS behave as men or women. I think it would be the former.
Kerri
In my NE Scots society the most powerful person in any family group is the matriarch. In fact in some families it is the man who gives the wife his wage, and it is the wife who gives her man his spending money.
I understand the survival instinct of tribes. It must have been very hard to accept, in reality. But then those were the same days that when the country went to war the young men queued to join up. Nowadays we would wait for the draft.
THe matter of wealth defeats gender still exists. Look back to the days of the Cold War and the threat of nuclear attack. Was the list of people alllowed in based on survival of the species or was it based who you knew and how rich you were.
I recall those days well; the armed service I was with had all the plans laid out based upon an expected desertion rate in excess of 60%, made up of men who would desert to care for their families, as opposed to staying and fighting the enemy.
Times have certainly changed. But faced with same conditions would we as TV/TS behave as men or women. I think it would be the former.
Kerri